Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Late Rally Too Little Too Late, Flyers Fall to Canes, 5-3

How much longer before we start hearing the rumors that the team are looking to sell at the deadline? Amazing that even a GM and coaching change have failed to alter the course of this season even slightly.

Sell, Mortimer, sell!

So hard to watch...

At least it looks like Fletch is NOT going to do something stupid like make a trade to squeeze into the playoffs. I am OK w FULL rebuild, just not the 1/2 rebuild and 1/2 "compete" Hexy was trying to pull off...

let the trades commence

Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Late Rally Too Little Too Late, Flyers Fall to Canes, 5-3
- bmeltzer

Stop having kids Neuvirth. You’re not gonna have the money to take care of them soon.

It’s getting really hard to give a (frank) about this team anymore, and that’s coming from a fan whose earliest memories of the team include names like Doug Favell, Andre Lacroix and Jean-Guy Gendron.

It’s getting really hard to give a (frank) about this team anymore, and that’s coming from a fan whose earliest memories of the team include names like Doug Favell, Andre Lacroix and Jean-Guy Gendron.
- BiggE

I was half watching last night after selling my seats. Mondays are already up for sale. Only going tomorrow to watch Johnny Hockey.

It’s getting really hard to give a (frank) about this team anymore, and that’s coming from a fan whose earliest memories of the team include names like Doug Favell, Andre Lacroix and Jean-Guy Gendron.
- BiggE

Amen. Where is the yes man of action Chuck Fletcher we were promised?

Amen. Where is the yes man of action Chuck Fletcher we were promised?
- wbon22

He found out what Hextall knew market is dead right now for what the Flyers are offering or want

https://www.nbcsports.com...18-19-philadelphia-flyers

Boruk’s best.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers/home-ice-pride-relic-past-2018-19-philadelphia-flyers

Boruk’s best.
- Just5

Rock bottom. The corporate shill is turning against them.

Amen. Where is the yes man of action Chuck Fletcher we were promised?
- wbon22

Hard to make a deal if no one is buying what you are selling.

The mistakes that doomed this team were made in the offseason:

You move on from Neuvirth and do what it takes to bring in another veteran goalie.

You don’t allow the team to go into camp hoping that Weal or a prospect can be the 3rd center you badly need.

These 2 gaffes put the team at a disadvantage from game 1. We talk about players underperforming all day, but if this team starts the season with a quality, experienced goalie who can play the majority of the games and 1 more solid middle 6 center, they are likely competing for a playoff spot right now and no one would be out of a job.

The best deals will come right at the deadline. There’s no urgency to do anything right now

You have to wait for the deadline to trade, the flyers will put a streak together, that streak will hopefully raise the value of some players

Sure it is a soft trade market, the bigger issue is the heartless play has really depressed the value of the assets

Hard to make a deal if no one is buying what you are selling.

The mistakes that doomed this team were made in the offseason:

You move on from Neuvirth and do what it takes to bring in another veteran goalie.

You don’t allow the team to go into camp hoping that Weal or a prospect can be the 3rd center you badly need.

These 2 gaffes put the team at a disadvantage from game 1. We talk about players underperforming all day, but if this team starts the season with a quality, experienced goalie who can play the majority of the games and 1 more solid middle 6 center, they are likely competing for a playoff spot right now and no one would be out of a job.
- BiggE


And you went out and signed van Riemsdyk long term but was that foolish now looking how the roster could get a little reshaping?

And i don't know but he just doesn't look great. i know he scored but he just seems like he isn't engaged a lot. Is he really that reliant on a center?

The best deals will come right at the deadline. There’s no urgency to do anything right now
- Just5

The 3 point games keep teams close. Once you get closer to the deadline there will be more of a seller and buyer list. Hopefully lots of buyers and maybe you get rivals and teams that could face each other bidding for the same guys like Simmonds or other targets you have.

This team stinks

Hard to make a deal if no one is buying what you are selling.

The mistakes that doomed this team were made in the offseason:

You move on from Neuvirth and do what it takes to bring in another veteran goalie.

You don’t allow the team to go into camp hoping that Weal or a prospect can be the 3rd center you badly need.

These 2 gaffes put the team at a disadvantage from game 1. We talk about players underperforming all day, but if this team starts the season with a quality, experienced goalie who can play the majority of the games and 1 more solid middle 6 center, they are likely competing for a playoff spot right now and no one would be out of a job.
- BiggE


And you went out and signed van Riemsdyk long term but was that foolish now looking how the roster could get a little reshaping?

And i don't know but he just doesn't look great. i know he scored but he just seems like he isn't engaged a lot. Is he really that reliant on a center?
- J35Bacher

Not defending JVR but a player who scores in tight needs someone to get him the puck, hex should have had a plan for that. JVR based on games played is on pace for 48 points, not great but not the problem with the team. Hägg has as many points as provy and Sanheim, the pieces just don’t fit together. They need another good center, they need speed with play making ability.

[quote=wcorvette]Not defending JVR but a player who scores in tight needs someone to get him the puck, hex should have had a plan for that. JVR based on games played is on pace for 48 points, not great but not the problem with the team. Hägg has as many points as provy and Sanheim, the pieces just don’t fit together. They need another good center, they need speed with play making ability, speed and a high hockey IQ. I love Jake, he has speed and he can pass but does have hockey IQ, I don’t think he has the hands of a kuck or point in Tampa. I think they are the type of players missing, not saying them specifically as we know that is not happening but if TK and Patrick showed more of that type of play, this team would fit better

The return the flyers get on Simmonds, jake,coots will be minimal. Last yr my brother in law thought the sabres were going to get a ton for kane.They ended up getting a late 1st and a player who plays in the minors.That 1st only became a 1st because kane resigned with sj.Otherwise it would have been a 2nd. No my brother in law isnt Garth.lol.

Bill,

Is it too late for Fletcher to make a move to try and make the playoffs this year?

Who are some players that the Flyers might/should trade if they are sellers other then Simmonds? Voracek, Ghost, JVR?

Bill,

Is it too late for Fletcher to make a move to try and make the playoffs this year?

Who are some players that the Flyers might/should trade if they are sellers other then Simmonds? Voracek, Ghost, JVR?
- youarewrong

Lol. They'd have to go 30-12 the rest of the way to make the playoffs. This season is lost.

The return the flyers get on Simmonds, jake,coots will be minimal. Last yr my brother in law thought the sabres were going to get a ton for kane.They ended up getting a late 1st and a player who plays in the minors.That 1st only became a 1st because kane resigned with sj.Otherwise it would have been a 2nd. No my brother in law isnt Garth.lol.
- flyeredup85

Kane and Simmonds are not the same type of players. I dont see them moving Couts.

The return the flyers get on Simmonds, jake,coots will be minimal. Last yr my brother in law thought the sabres were going to get a ton for kane.They ended up getting a late 1st and a player who plays in the minors.That 1st only became a 1st because kane resigned with sj.Otherwise it would have been a 2nd. No my brother in law isnt Garth.lol.
- flyeredup85

I think Kane is a little overrated. Not saying he isn't a good player but i think he was more of a name. I believe that's why you didn't see the big offers you thought.